Why Are Starbucks Sizes Called Tall, Grande and Venti?

Because of a trip to Italy in 1983, and because the chain kept needing bigger cups than it had names for. Venti literally means twenty, which is also why the name is wrong on half the menu.

1983 the Italy tripShort, Tall, Grande the original threeVenti means twentyTrenta means thirty
Short answer: Howard Schultz visited Italy in 1983, and built his coffeehouse around what he saw there, including Italian sounding size names. The first menu had three: short at 8 ounces, tall at 12 and grande at 16. When the chain later needed cups bigger than large, it switched to actual Italian numbers. Venti means twenty and trenta means thirty, which is exactly how many ounces each was meant to hold.

The usual explanation is that Starbucks invented odd names to sound sophisticated and to stop people ordering a small. That is only half right, and the real sequence is more interesting because the system was never designed as a whole. It grew one cup at a time and the seams still show.

Where the names came from

In 1983 Howard Schultz, then working in retail operations and marketing at Starbucks, traveled to Italy and was struck by how espresso bars there operated. At that point Starbucks sold beans and equipment rather than drinks.

When he could not persuade the owners to move into serving coffee, he left and opened his own chain, Il Giornale, modeled on what he had seen. Italian naming came with the rest of the package.

That first menu had three sizes, and only one of them was an Italian word:

Size Ounces What the word is
Short 8 Plain English
Tall 12 Plain English
Grande 16 Italian for large

In 1987 Il Giornale merged with Starbucks, Schultz took over, and those names became the standard for the whole chain.

The detail that explains everything else. Short and tall were a matched pair, the way small and large are. Grande was already the top of the range when the system was designed. Everything above it was added later to a naming scheme that had run out of room, which is why the logic changes partway up the board.

Why the big sizes switched to numbers

As the chain grew, American customers wanted larger drinks than Italian coffee culture had any concept of.

There is no word above grande in ordinary Italian usage that would work on a menu. So rather than inventing another adjective, Starbucks switched systems entirely and started using Italian numbers for the number of ounces.

Venti is Italian for twenty. A venti hot drink is 20 ounces.

Trenta is Italian for thirty. A trenta is 30 ounces.

So the modern board runs on two incompatible logics at once. The bottom three sizes are descriptions, the top two are measurements. Nobody would design it that way from scratch.

Why a venti cold is not twenty ounces

This is the part that catches people out, and it is a genuine inconsistency rather than a myth.

A venti hot drink is 20 ounces, matching the name. A venti cold drink is 24 ounces, which makes the name simply wrong.

Starbucks puts this down to ice. A cold cup has to hold the same amount of drink plus the ice displacing it, so the cup was made larger to deliver a comparable serving.

The one that actually affects value. A venti hot gets two espresso shots, the same as a grande. A venti cold gets three. So paying up from grande to venti buys you extra coffee on an iced drink and only extra milk on a hot one. If you order hot lattes, the grande is almost always the better buy. Sizes and prices for every drink are on the Starbucks menu.

What happened to short

It still exists. It was pushed off the printed menu board when grande arrived and the range shifted upward, but any store will make one.

A short is 8 ounces and takes the same single or double shot as a tall depending on the drink, which makes it the strongest ratio of coffee to milk on the menu and the cheapest way to buy an espresso drink. If you find lattes too milky, ordering a short is the fix, and you have to ask for it by name because it is not displayed.

Is it really about stopping you ordering a small?

Partly, and it would be naive to pretend otherwise, but the history does not support it as the original motive.

The names came from a genuine attempt to import Italian coffeehouse culture in 1983, before Starbucks sold a single drink. The commercial benefit, that there is no size called small on the board and the smallest displayed option is called tall, was a consequence rather than the plan.

What is fair to say is that the chain has never had any reason to fix it. A menu where the entry size is called tall and the true smallest size is hidden is not an accident that anyone was in a hurry to correct.

Related Questions

Why are Starbucks sizes called Tall, Grande and Venti?

They trace back to Howard Schultz’s 1983 trip to Italy, after which he opened a coffeehouse modeled on Italian espresso bars. The first menu used short, tall and grande. When the chain later needed cups larger than grande it switched to Italian numbers instead of adjectives, so venti means twenty and trenta means thirty, matching the intended ounces.

What does Venti mean in Italian?

Twenty. It refers to the number of ounces, not to size in the abstract, which is why a venti hot drink holds 20 ounces. Trenta follows the same rule and means thirty, for a 30 ounce cup. The smaller sizes do not work this way, since short, tall and grande are descriptions rather than measurements.

Why is a Venti cold drink 24 ounces and not 20?

Because of ice. Starbucks made the cold cup larger so that a drink served over ice delivers a comparable amount of liquid to the hot version. It does mean the name is inaccurate on cold drinks, since venti means twenty but a cold venti holds 24 ounces.

Does a Venti have more espresso than a Grande?

Only when it is cold. A venti hot drink gets two shots, exactly the same as a grande, so the extra money buys milk rather than coffee. A venti cold drink gets three shots. If you drink hot lattes, the grande is generally the better value of the two.

Can you still order a Short at Starbucks?

Yes. The short, at 8 ounces, was removed from the printed menu board when grande was added and the range shifted upward, but stores still make it. Because it takes the same shots as larger sizes on many drinks, it has the strongest coffee to milk ratio on the menu and is the cheapest espresso drink available. You have to ask for it by name.

What are all the Starbucks sizes?

Five. Short at 8 ounces, hot only and not on the board. Tall at 12. Grande at 16. Venti at 20 hot or 24 cold. Trenta at 30, which is cold only and limited to iced tea, Refreshers and cold brew. Grande is the size a barista will assume if you do not name one.

Did Starbucks name the sizes to stop people ordering a small?

That is the effect but not the documented origin. The names came from an attempt to import Italian coffeehouse culture in 1983, before Starbucks sold drinks at all, and grew piecemeal as larger cups were added. The chain has simply never had a commercial reason to rename the entry size to small.

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About this guide. USA Food Menu is an independent reference site and is not affiliated with Starbucks Corporation. Size history and company background were checked against published company history and coffee industry reporting. Cup volumes and shot counts reflect standard builds and can vary by market. Current prices and calories are on the Starbucks menu.